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Dear Jagex, <br> <br>Short and sweet. <br> <br>Why? Why did you let this happen? For so long? Why fix half the problem and not the other half? <br> <br>Of course I am talking about venge assisting. Why is it that you can give venge to someone else in single combat pvp (edgeville wildy example) but you can not give energy spec. <br> <br>You changed energy spec- for those who did not know what it was- it let you transfer your special attacks to someone so they had DOUBLE their specs. If you had multiple people giving energy specs to the player- they had the capacity to KO anybody. Imagine facing 8 Dragon Claw specs in a row? <br> <br>So you fixed that problem- a blight on the game and you fixed it. It was UNFAIR. <br> <br>But why not Venge other? How is it that I can vs someone on this character, and my opponent is being venged 4 times every 30 seconds? How is this fair? Made even worse by the fact at higher levels you hit much harder. <br> <br>It is a blight on the game. It seriously needs to be fixed. <br> <br>Where is the fairness when I am pking on a lower level character and someone with lvl 60 magic has venge? <br> <br>I am not sure if nobody has ever reported this, seen this as a mod or even thought about it. If you have and you wish lvl 60 mages= even lower- to have the ability to have venge attacks. Please explain to me the logic and reasoning behind this as I believe, it achieves nothing. <br> <br>You have done a lot better with pvp*** pking lately. <br> <br>I hope it continues with making it fairer again. <br> <br>Cheers, <br> <br>F--A-H--E <br> <br>**** UPDATE **** in my rage I forgot about heal other spell too. Remember that one also.
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i think that people complaining about this need to try doing it themselves, if its such an advantage use it yourself and quit complaining. its not an error on their part its your error for not using it for your own advantage.
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Ok were you around when the energy spec was allowed to be transferred? <br> <br>The fact of the matter is that it is not fair. <br> <br>Quests <br>Higher Stats <br>Inventory Spaces <br> <br>All of a sudden the person that worked harder for these levels and earnt them the right way is actually the one that is worse off? <br> <br>My opponent now has more food than me because he can be venged by friends? <br> <br>My opponent has is less likely to die by a special attack due to being healed by friends? <br> <br>I have done it myself, everyone is doing it. Because it can be done. Everyone knows it is unfair. How could it possible be fair? <br> <br>It is common sense. I am giving criticism to a major blight on the game in the way of PVP Combat. <br> <br>If you think cheating is cool- well that is your way then not mine. <br> <br>P.S.- About you considering it is not an error. I beg to differ. Until someone from Jagex can state a proper and logical reason for why these have not/ are not- going to be removed from the game, then it is a major error.
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Agreed. It's annoying when you go to BH edgeville and there's people standing around with earth staffs, just venging random people while keeping protect from melee up. <br> <br>If energy transfer can't work in single, neither should vengeance-other.
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Any word Jagex? <br> <br>Or falling on deaf ears? <br> <br>You don't let people with 1 defence wear rune, or people with 40 attack use d claws do you? <br> <br>Then why let people cheat.
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I feel vengance assist is perfectly fair. <br> <br>it can be used on monsters, but not pvp? <br> <br>realy, whos being unfair?
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how is it fair in a player vs player situation... <br> <br>I fail to see any logic behind your statement. Because there is none. <br> <br>Why did they change energy transfer so you cannot use in single pvp? Unfair. Simple. Come back with a real rebuttal.
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You see no logic, as it differs from your own. <br> <br>get back when you can decifer the meanings of others. <br> <br> <br>I think that from personal experience, 80 magic has been hard to acheive. i hate to think about 94. <br> <br>I feel that if a person has acheived 94 without the use of botting, that they DESERVE, yes, DESERVE, to use the skill they trained. <br> <br>If i were to ask for claws to be banned from pvp, you would most likely object. I fail to see the difference, and the hypocricy is devistating. <br> <br>as for your explaination above <br> <br>Quests <br>You have to fight the inadiquacy in "Dream mentor", which if you havent noticed, is a fairly hard quest to do. <br> <br>Higher Stats <br>If vengance isnt a higher stat, idk what is <br> <br>Inventory Spaces <br>It is less room for them to carry to protect themselves.
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When you actually go and pk, please come back and offer some thoughts. <br> <br>I do not mind if it is different as long as it offers a proper thought process going towards the answer. <br> <br>Still you have not told me why energy transfer is still in the game? - Exactly the same thing and has very similar effect on pvp in SINGLE PLAYER. <br> <br>You say that if you get 94 mage you deserve to be able to do it? What about energy transfer. The fact is that YOU deserve the right to get venge. When you are on LUNAR SPELL BOOK. <br> <br>Simple right? <br> <br>I would love to see your reaction. When you finally worked hard for your 94 magic, you go pk in SINGLE PVP. Yup SINGLE. <br> <br>This is what happens. <br> <br>You have 3 spaces in your inventory filled up with your venge runes. You have pots, a ko weapon and food. <br> <br>You are 100% ep. You get a target. You fight in SINGLE PVP. <br> <br>Your target has 80 mage. It has less defence than you. You a by far the superior (stats) player from a quick look. <br> <br>You fight- all of a sudden he has 2 people venging him. <br> <br>So lets see- he has MORE FOOD than you to start off with, + he is being venged 2x as much as you are? <br> <br>Did he earn the stats to get venge? NO. <br>Did you earn the stats to get venge? YES. <br> <br>On top of that he has his 2 groupies healing him. <br> <br>Can you let me know if you think that is fair? <br> <br>Why waste a whole hour getting a target for the chance of some semi decent loot to just have to lose it or die to it because there is NO CHANCE that you will kill it fairly. <br> <br>That my friend, is logic.
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